Am I the only one noticing a 4670 - on a 128-bit memory bus - still beats a 3850?

Boy, does that ever expose just where the problem was in RV670. Makes you wonder if GDDR4 was really that bad; everything that ever ran using it wasn't exactly hurting for memory bandwidth to begin with.

These look to be great value for the masses, including and not limited to WoW boxes worldwide (especially with Blizzard's adamant support as of late).

Starting with the benchmarks, VR-Zone claims 3DMark Vantage scores for the Radeon HD 4650 and 4670 lie in the P2100 and P3500 ranges, respectively. For reference, the site quotes scores of around P1900 for Nvidia's GeForce 9500 GT, and around P3200 for Radeon HD 3850 models with DDR2 memory.

And there's the point where I stopped reading, when benchmarks that have little-to-nothing to do with real world performance were used to reach conclusions. Someone call me when results not obtained with 3DMark anything are available.

i can't wait for tr to review these...the 4850 is awesome but won't work for me. the 4670 looks great though...hurry up september!

Radeon HD 3850 models with DDR2 memory

Do these actually exist?

It should be interesting to find out what the gaming performance is like with the 128bit memory interface.

I was hoping the 4650 to beat the 3850, oh well, can't ask for everything I guess. At least the 4670 can do it.

Faster than 9500GT... nice if I could see this in the market then I probably get one. ^_^