Comments for: Radeon HD 4850 coming June 18, GeForce GTX 280 to follow

lol@ complaints about the new naming scheme, ah shut up, you will get used to it. We should be more concerned about performance and technological innovations in the graphics department not naming conventions....

#62, The reason we complain isn't for our sakes, it's for the les... : MadManOriginal (#63) «

#63, Nvidia doesn't want the 9xxx name since ATI already had i... : ish718 (#64) «

#64, NV already has 9000-series named GPUs so I think you m... : MadManOriginal (#65) «

#65, Yea a typo. What I meant was Nvidia doesn't want to ... : ish718 (#74) «

#5. Posted at 09:51 AM on May 15th 2008

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provoko

GTX 280? Sounds like a weenie name.

Oh god, what are they going to do for the next versions? 1280 2280 3280 4280 5280?

#5, They can call the next versions Cheddar, Provolone, and Swis... : SPOOFE (#45) «

#45, people who get screwed over due to stupid naming schemes?... : willyolio (#52) «

#52, I'd love to see some stats to discern just how many of... : SPOOFE (#56) «

#56, You doubt the power of psychological marketing? Cap... : provoko (#57) «

#57, Such a long post and not a shred of the evidence... : SPOOFE (#67) «

#12. Posted at 10:18 AM on May 15th 2008

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PRIME1

So does this now put ATI a full generation behind NVIDIA?

#12, Actually, I think this puts them on par with each other. We'... : Lord.Blue (#21) «

#21, GT200 = New Gen 4800 = 2900 based : PRIME1 (#39) «

#39, How do we know the GT200 is New Gen? It could be stron... : MadManOriginal (#61) «

#12, Can nVidia make a dual GPU GT200? Otherwise they may not be ... : Anonymous Coward (#22) «

#22, Very good. Trust nVidia. : Meadows (#24) «

#22, What distance ? If anyone needs catching up, is ATI at th... : Silus (#26) «

#26, If a dual GPU RV770 is possible while a GT200 must be ... : Anonymous Coward (#28) «

#28, "Why bother make a monster GPU if your competitor j... : SPOOFE (#44) «

#44, Ah hah, I would argue the exact opposite conclus... : Anonymous Coward (#58) «

#58, Probably a lot, it might take as long to phas... : Meadows (#59) «

#58, Thing is, your expensive new Jumbo GPU can ea... : ludi (#60) «

#58, "The market for these types of high end graph... : SPOOFE (#66) «

#22, i trust it will be very good, but i also believe it will ... : willyolio (#27) «

#47. Posted at 04:03 PM on May 15th 2008

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Forge

Again Nvidia with the Epic Fail.

Nvidia: Using GTX across the entire line makes it worthless/irrelevant.

You ALMOST had it right back in the GeForce 6/7/8 scheme.

GeForce (doesn't change, you need this for branding)

6 (major arch, and NO, G92 is not two different arches, so 9600 still == Epic Fail also)
8 (high/main/mid/low/whatever family)
0 (not refresh = 0, refresh = 5)
0 (placeholder to make the number big and impressive)

So 6800 = high end. 6850 = high end plus refresh. 6600 = mainstream. 6400 = mass market 'value' line or whatever. 6200 = crappy low end stuffs. Got the idea so far NV?

8800 GTX == 8800
8800 GTS 512 = 8650
8800 GTS 640 = 8600 640MB
8800 GTS 320 = 8600 320MB
8600GT = 8400

And just DUMP THE FREAKING LETTERS ALTOGETHER. Notice no one is really confusing which Core 2 is which?? GOOD naming scheme. Yours? Not so much. Rework it, don't abandon it.

#47, Well since you are getting excited about naming.. did you ju... : sigher (#51) «

#47, I agree with the 40,60,80 naming scheme and 45,65,85 for ref... : 0g1 (#54) «

#47, Such an "Epic Fail", indeed! Making the GTX moniker irreleva... : SPOOFE (#55) «

#53. Posted at 11:05 PM on May 15th 2008, Edited at 11:07 PM on May 15th 2008

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matdem1

I put this in the graphics forum too...benchmarks of the HD 4870 vs the 9800 GX2

Shows The 4870 leading by over 20% in Crysis @ 16 x 12

If True very sweet!

http://www.dvhardware.net/article26964.html

#40. Posted at 02:25 PM on May 15th 2008

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kvndoom

I'm no longer interested in speed, since my 8800GT is more than enough for what I do with my computer. Significant image quality improvements and must-have new features are the only things that would make me upgrade sooner than the 2 years I plan to keep this card. "faster" just doesn't turn me on that much anymore.

#40, So true. Current generations are fast in every single game e... : marvelous (#48) «

#48, there are a couple of other games like COJ DX10 and Lost ... : toyota (#50) «

#2. Posted at 09:39 AM on May 15th 2008

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Jigar

Both the GTX 280 and the GTX 260 will be based on the next-gen GT200 graphics processor

Now this naming scheme looks simple....

#2, Don't worry. They'll complicate it soon enough by throwing i... : CampinCarl (#6) «

#2, It is simple. About as long as the Radeon HD model names, to... : Meadows (#10) «

#2, not really, all they did was drop a digit. The "GTX" leaves ... : ssidbroadcast (#13) «

#13, I guess it leaves it open, but for now it doesn't mean an... : BobbinThreadbare (#35) «

#13, nvidia really needs to learn from ATi. otherwise it would... : casingh (#36) «

#9. Posted at 10:06 AM on May 15th 2008

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PrincipalSkinner

Does the launch price of Radeon HD 4870 that is very close to that of 9800 GTX tell us something of its performance?

#9, Yes, it means once again, ATI will have nothing to compete i... : BoBzeBuilder (#14) «

#14, Don't be stupid, if every generation resulted in higher p... : GTVic (#15) «

#15, I don't care about previous generation, and that's not... : BoBzeBuilder (#30) «

#30, I suppose there was a big performance gap between t... : no51 (#31) «

#31, No sir, but there is a big gap in the times the ... : BoBzeBuilder (#34) «

#14, I'll wait for the benchies. : no51 (#19) «

#14, ATI's economic situation does not call for blowing cash d... : Anonymous Coward (#20) «

#9, The HD 4870 (and this is based on rumored specs alone. Real-... : Silus (#25) «

#1. Posted at 09:23 AM on May 15th 2008

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l33t-g4m3r

looking forward to the reviews.

#1, Yup. Same. : ssidbroadcast (#16) «

#1, Agree. Only the reviews and benchmarks will tell. Until then... : Mavrick88 (#33) «

#23. Posted at 11:24 AM on May 15th 2008

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Silus

Cyril,
the GTX 280 is the one with 240 Stream Processors, 1 GB of GDDR3 and a 512 bit memory interface, not the GTX 260.

#18. Posted at 10:38 AM on May 15th 2008, Edited at 10:41 AM on May 15th 2008

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no51

Maybe someday I'll learn how to use reply properly.

#17. Posted at 10:37 AM on May 15th 2008

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2x4

couple of interesting titles are coming up this fall (staler clear skies, project origin - tba in 2008, hopefully alan wake also tba in 2008) so they better prepare some good drivers for those games

#7. Posted at 09:53 AM on May 15th 2008

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fpsduck

Hmm, how about DirectX 10.1 support on nVidia side ?

#3. Posted at 09:42 AM on May 15th 2008

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donkeycrock

I'm pretty excited about these two launches. I hope they live up to the hype.

#3, Ditto. I may just have time for some gaming this summer. : flip-mode (#4) «