Quad core is already overkill for desktop apps. It should be obvious to everyone that 8-core is simply not needed.

Personally, I'm interested in AMD's triple cores due out in Feb. That appears to be a reasonable upgrade from todays dual-core standard.

On a different subject - I'm also anxious for the new dual core HD3870 card which will beat nvidias best on most benchmarks, while costing less and using less power.

Technology is good, but in practicality prevails for most consumers.

Plus

That sure sucks for the 5 people who have those dual socket systems.

Giving people who help them stay in business a swift kick in the rear seems to be becoming standard procedure for AMD.

Does anyone remember 18 months ago before the Core 2 Duo debuted and AMD did a computer processor industry first by raising prices because it had no competition?

I guess us hardcore duallies will have to go with server boards after all. I could care less about support of multiple graphics cards but I do want support for my raid cards and a decent multi-monitor card.

AMD and ATI were the perfect match for each other. Both languished for years behind the competition, both had a brief flash of brilliance, and both will again languish because that brief flash was just that, a flash that couldn't capitalize on.

It looks like AMD is getting a reality check.

4x4 and Skulltrail are both mismarketed non-sense that only hardcore enthusiast with deep pockets would consider.

I still expect Skulltrail to follow through at very limited quantities and hefty premiums.

AMD - 0 | The Rest of the Industry - 1

AMD needs to do this. They are a fat overweight boxer who lost the belt to the now current champ(intel). They need to get back in the gym refocus and come to the rematch ducking and weaving, not standing and trading blows! Show they are worthy to step into the ring again.

Who's the nimrod geek who came up with the stupid name skulltrail?

Well if you they're stupid enough to buy this... well they got what they...

Spider will probably be discontinued as well.

I couldn't care less what we're talking about or how useful or practical it is. The thing that stands out from this story, IMO, is that AMD has broken yet another promise.

It's really sad and pathetic.

Skulltrail? Who's the nimrod geek who came up with that name??

opterons work fine in those boards, they should be able to drop barcelonas in there no probs, they just won't be branded phenom.