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Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:41 pm

The wait continues- this slide is a fake, per NVIDIA. :(










http://www.guru3d.com/news/geforce-gtx-360-and-380-benchmarks/

Looks like good news for gamers if nV's single core solution is besting ATi's dual core. If these benches are valid it should mean:

A. Lower prices on the the very good 58XX cards, good for gamers.
B. For more money (most likely) higher performance and more features for GTX3XX gamers.

Everybody wins. :D
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:44 pm

A GTX360 beating the 5970? I'll believe that when I see it. Thank you very much. For now, those benches mean nothing.
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:50 pm

I will not be surprised if these cards are beasts but of course I'll wait until real reviews. At the same time however I really don't care how these cards perform. The pricing will likely be proportional to the performance and there's no way I'm buying a $400++ graphics card in this day and age. If NV doesn't move Fermi architecture downmarket, and given some 300 series renaming that's already taken place that might be a good possibility, they might as well not release anything as far as I'm concerned.
 
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:59 pm

Ditto, will wait until real world reviews are out. Those are just projected performance numbers and from NVIDIA themselves. It's no surprise they're trying to prop themselves by claiming such performance figures against ATI's top dog.

But you're right about one thing though, if it's indeed true (about the performance numbers) then everybody should get a piece of the proverbial pie :)
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:02 pm

BoBzeBuilder wrote:
A GTX360 beating the 5970? I'll believe that when I see it. Thank you very much. For now, those benches mean nothing.


Rumor has it the dual GPU Fermi is hot on the heels of these cards as well:

http://vr-zone.com/forums/519373/gf100-will-be-fastest-gpu-dual-gpu-fermi-is-coming-.html

Some other surprises yet to be revealed as well- good times ahead.
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:03 pm

950$ graphics card? :wink:
I bet it will match those silly people who buy intel extremes just fine
I don't think these benchmarks are legit though
if at all, they are R&D numbers
 
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:14 pm

ReAp3r-G wrote:
Ditto, will wait until real world reviews are out. Those are just projected performance numbers and from NVIDIA themselves. It's no surprise they're trying to prop themselves by claiming such performance figures against ATI's top dog.

But you're right about one thing though, if it's indeed true (about the performance numbers) then everybody should get a piece of the proverbial pie :)


NVIDIA (and ATi for that matter) doesn't "lie" in their PR slides, they'll pick games/spots/settings that show their products in a good light I'm sure but I don't believe they "lie". If these slides are real (look real to me- I sent'em an email asking why the heck I haven't seen them yet) I'd guess we can expect comparable performance between GTX380 and HD5970 at least.

And it will be good news for all- the level of performance the ATi cards offer is great- getting thm cheap will be a good bargain.
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:30 pm

potatochobit wrote:
950$ graphics card? :wink:
I bet it will match those silly people who buy intel extremes just fine
I don't think these benchmarks are legit though
if at all, they are R&D numbers


Wishful guess on your part? :wink:
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:48 pm

The Fermi Tesla has a TDP of 225W. Without crippling performance, how can they even produce a dual GPU Fermi card (given desktop clocks are the same or higher than Tesla) and get it under 300W [ATX spec limit, which the 5970 had to be under too]?

As for the benches, they must be fake:

Compare: http://www.geeks3d.com/public/jegx/2...rmance-big.jpg

- The fonts for the card names and settings are standard Windows fonts. Most companies do not do this. Nvidia's actual slides have much more antialiased text than that.
- The layout and colourscheme is almost identical to a GTX200 slide (GTX200 Gaming Beyond) with 200 as 300. Using the exact same slogan for both wouldn't be appropriate for a revolutionary new architecture.
- What's with two different greens being used in each bar? Unless it was copied from an existing slide with bars joined together. The red bars aren't like this - inconsistency?
- The vertical numbers are not aligned with their bars, whereas the GTX200 slide's are. If the same format was used then the numbers should be aligned the same.
 
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:30 pm

potatochobit wrote:
if at all, they are R&D numbers

At least the bars are numbered, and that's a start.
 
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:36 pm

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- What's with two different greens being used in each bar? Unless it was copied from an existing slide with bars joined together. The red bars aren't like this - inconsistency?

Precisely. It makes nVidia's bars look shinier. That's the point.
 
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:57 pm

BAD NEWS- slide is a fake. (straight from NVIDIA, this is not leaked)
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:18 pm

Yeah, these slides seemed a reach even for a marketing team... That said, come on we need competition now!
 
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:41 pm

Brian_S wrote:
The wait continues- this slide is a fake, per NVIDIA. :(



That's too bad. Imminent production of the 300s with those stats could have put a hurt on the exorbitant prices out there right now.
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Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:51 pm

LOLz at Folk Ass group cheerleaders for grasping at any straw that will save them from the Red Monster.
Even for you that was lame Brian.
Hopefully "Infermi"(to be released sometime next year) will be competitive with this year's ATi high end cards...
I hear the A2 spin resulted in a "broken" tesselator.....have they managed to put Humpty together again yet? :-?
 
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:18 pm

Fighterpilot wrote:
LOLz at Folk Ass group cheerleaders for grasping at any straw that will save them from the Red Monster.
Even for you that was lame Brian.
Hopefully "Infermi"(to be released sometime next year) will be competitive with this year's ATi high end cards... :wink:


LOLz at people who try to start forum flame wars about video cards, your post would be lame for anyone. :roll:
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:19 pm

Gerbil Jedidiah wrote:
Brian_S wrote:
The wait continues- this slide is a fake, per NVIDIA. :(



That's too bad. Imminent production of the 300s with those stats could have put a hurt on the exorbitant prices out there right now.


Yep, would have been a win/win, for sure.
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:34 pm

Gerbil Jedidiah wrote:
That's too bad. Imminent production of the 300s with those stats could have put a hurt on the exorbitant prices out there right now.


Doubt it. The prices won't change until supply increases or the demand would lower to a point where current supply met it. I doubt either of those would happen with the launch of a ultra expensive Nvidia part. This thing wouldn't have been near HD5870/5850 prices, more like HD5970 prices.
 
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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:27 pm

Brian_S wrote:
Fighterpilot wrote:
LOLz at Folk Ass group cheerleaders for grasping at any straw that will save them from the Red Monster.
Even for you that was lame Brian.
Hopefully "Infermi"(to be released sometime next year) will be competitive with this year's ATi high end cards... :wink:


LOLz at people who try to start forum flame wars about video cards, your post would be lame for anyone. :roll:

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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:36 pm

Fighterpilot wrote:
LOLz at Folk Ass group cheerleaders for grasping at any straw that will save them from the Red Monster.
Even for you that was lame Brian.
Hopefully "Infermi"(to be released sometime next year) will be competitive with this year's ATi high end cards...
I hear the A2 spin resulted in a "broken" tesselator.....have they managed to put Humpty together again yet? :-?


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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:24 pm

Brian_S wrote:
Fighterpilot wrote:
LOLz at Folk Ass group cheerleaders for grasping at any straw that will save them from the Red Monster.
Even for you that was lame Brian.
Hopefully "Infermi"(to be released sometime next year) will be competitive with this year's ATi high end cards... :wink:


LOLz at people who try to start forum flame wars about video cards, your post would be lame for anyone. :roll:


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Re: Yowza! GTX360 and GTX380 benches!

Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:43 am

Brian_S wrote:
Fighterpilot wrote:
LOLz at Folk Ass group cheerleaders for grasping at any straw that will save them from the Red Monster.
Even for you that was lame Brian.
Hopefully "Infermi"(to be released sometime next year) will be competitive with this year's ATi high end cards... :wink:


LOLz at people who try to start forum flame wars about video cards, your post would be lame for anyone. :roll:

Guess you shouldn't have wasted all that anti-ATi trolling at Rage3D then huh :wink:
 
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