24" Monitor Needed

[StuG]

Hey everybody. Looking at getting rid of the monitors I have that use HDMI (alot of games I have hate the HDMI), and was originally looking at this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

The main things I am looking for is 24", 1920x1200, and hopefully under $300. If anybody has any further suggestions please go ahead and lay em on me.

[Voldenuit]

What are you going to use the monitor for? Is resolution, response time or colour accuracy more important to you?

Just going by your budget, that puts the 1080p IPS panels out of your range (the Dell U2410 and hp 2475 start at ~$500).

Consider:
Dell G2410 - 24" 1920x1080, TN-Film, 5 ms, Ambient Light sensor - $249
Dell P2310H - 23" 1920x1080, TN-Film, 5ms - $209

Both represent the equal value in my book - it's a question of whether you think the extra inch and ambient light sensor are worth the extra 40 bucks. If you're using it in an office where the lighting is always regulated, I'd say go for the P2310, but if you're using it at home where you'll be turning lights on/off and having incident sunlight, the G2410 might be worth it.

I'm using a Dell S2309W and it's been great for me. Got a good price on it at $169, but it's been superseded. Really good viewing angles, contrast and gradient handling for a TN panel. Not something I'd use for HDR work on Photoshop, but then I'd be ideally looking at 12-bit panels for that...

[StuG]

Well its main use is going to be for Gaming and Movie watching, so response time and good color are the top two.
Any reason why your so dell oriented?

Also...both of those are 16:9 and thus not 1920x1200, I really don't wanna use another 16:9 monitor.
So scratch out both of those.

[Voldenuit]

Well its main use is going to be for Gaming and Movie watching, so response time and good color are the top two.
Any reason why your so dell oriented?

No real reason. But they do refresh their lines much more frequently than most other OEMs, and their volumes are high, so they usually get the latest panels. And they do have pretty good value in their monitor range. Lastly, I've had pretty good luck with their monitors in the past, if that's any reliable indicator of, uh, reliability.

Also...both of those are 16:9 and thus not 1920x1200, I really don't wanna use another 16:9 monitor.
So scratch out both of those.

Well, for movie watching, excess vertical resolution is a bit of a waste anyway - you'll get a bigger movie picture on a 24" 16:9 screen than on a 24" 16:10 screen. But you're right, I do miss 16:10 in general computing - especially with Windows 7's humongous taskbar. In the end, though, the switch to 16:9 didn't bother me as much on the desktop where there is plenty of resolution anyway, unlike say, on laptops (where the added vertical resolution is more precious).

You can always check out the LCD Thread on AT's forums, although their selections can be a bit out of date, and some of the more popular models there (like the BenQ G2400WD, are being discontinued).

[Fighterpilot]

Stu...you have a great rig...get this killer IPS panel from dell and you'll be set.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfo/periphera ... 2410&s=dfo
Its pricier than you mentioned but its worth it.

[riviera74]

Stu...you have a great rig...get this killer IPS panel from dell and you'll be set.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfo/periphera ... 2410&s=dfo
Its pricier than you mentioned but its worth it.

The site does not give you prices or inventory on this model.

[riviera74]

In case you cannot acquire that Dell, try this out instead.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176104&cm_re=ips-_-24-176-104-_-Product

[Flying Fox]

"Good colour" is only in gaming and movies, and the budget is like $300. Suggesting IPS is sort of irresponsible. In the OP's case I do think a good TN is all he needs. The Samsung T240HD has a TV tuner for doubling as a TV, do you really need the feature?

I do miss 16:10 in general computing - especially with Windows 7's humongous taskbar.

I have discovered that docking on the side seems more useful now that 7 does not make it that painful. I would suggest you try it. Even in 16:10 I can always still use more vertical pixels anyway.

[UberGerbil]

Hey everybody. Looking at getting rid of the monitors I have that use HDMI (alot of games I have hate the HDMI),

I'm confused: don't your existing monitors have DVI inputs? I don't think I've ever seen one that has HDMI but not DVI (unless it's actually a TV, not a monitor). Assuming you have no other problems with them, swapping in a DVI cable (or even just an HDMI-DVI converter) seems much cheaper....

[Flying Fox]

I'm confused: don't your existing monitors have DVI inputs? I don't think I've ever seen one that has HDMI but not DVI (unless it's actually a TV, not a monitor). Assuming you have no other problems with them, swapping in a DVI cable (or even just an HDMI-DVI converter) seems much cheaper....

Those monitors that are supposed to be "multimedia oriented", like this HP for example.

[Xibalban]

I definitely recommend the Dell G2410. Cnet ranks it as one of their top 5 monitors and other reviews have been more than favorable. Check it out here:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/prod ... u=320-7956

Ok, but don't stop there. Here is a coupon available right now. http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/Dell-G241 ... 11557.aspx
Click the "Get Deal" button and BAM 60 bucks off.

(Billy Mays Voice) BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! Check out a bunch of the online coupon places or google for Dell Coupons and you can sometimes stack that discount with another one. It worked for me, I just bought mine, shipped, for $211.

[UberGerbil]

Those monitors that are supposed to be "multimedia oriented", like this HP for example.

Ah, OK.

I definitely recommend the Dell G2410. Cnet ranks it as one of their top 5 monitors and other reviews have been more than favorable. Check it out here:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/prod ... u=320-7956

It worked for me, I just bought mine, shipped, for $211.

Kind of amusing that this monitor doesn't have HDMI (I realize that the OP is specifically looking for a monitor with DVI input, and this has DVI with HDCP, but really the root of the problem is monitors that don't offer the full gamut of input options so you can choose whichever one is appropriate at the time, and this is just another different example of that). I was going to ask how they get away with a list price of $309, but I see it's an LED-backlit display. I look forward to the day when that's ubiquitous and there's no significant premium attached.

Xibalban -- if you have this monitor set up have you run it through the tests at lagom.nl?

[Xibalban]

Hehe, maybe I prematurely jumped the gun by recommending it, because to be honest, mine is still on its way to me. I based my decision (and recommendation) off of several reviews and the excellent deal I got on it. But I will be more than happy to share my findings on those tests when it arrives.

[StuG]

So, my monitors right now DO NOT have DVI, they only have HDMI and VGA. Also, I'm only in the market for 1920x1200. Does that mean all that people will offer is ISP and SPVA panels?

Also, I really don't like dell as a company in general. Just to put that out there so if at all possible I would like to avoid them.

All OEM's aren't really something I want to support.

[mattsteg]

All OEM's aren't really something I want to support.

If that's the case, I'm curious how you expect to buy anything.

[StuG]

How are there not good monitor companies that aren't OEM builders?

I mean, samsung and LG make the freaking panels, why wouldn't they be just as good as the people who buy those panels, and than put them inside their housings?

[Voldenuit]

I mean, samsung and LG make the freaking panels, why wouldn't they be just as good as the people who buy those panels, and than put them inside their housings?

The circuitry and control units, not to mention calibration, lighting, casing and power supplies are usually specific to the OEMs. Gone are the days when OEMs simply slapped a label on a preexisting product and call it 'theirs'. In car analogy, having a Ford engine doesn't make a car a Ford. The best car with a Ford engine is the Koenigsegg CC8, and the best Ford right now (the Focus RS) has a Volvo-developed engine.

Course, Samsung and LG also sell laptops, so they are also 'OEMs' in that sense, and not every Samsung monitor has a Samsung panel (you will find panels from AU Optronics, Chimei or even LG.Phillips in the same Samsung model).

[StuG]

Well I guess I should be more specific about OEM's.
I specifically mean Dell, HP, Gateway. Pretty much those three I don't want.

Also here is my top contender right now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6824002359

Opinions?

[Airmantharp]

Well I guess I should be more specific about OEM's.
I specifically mean Dell, HP, Gateway. Pretty much those three I don't want.

Also here is my top contender right now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6824002359

Opinions?

There's a Hyundai for $229. I'd be afraid to mention it, except that I'm using a Chinese screen from Hanns-G right now, and it's the best rated screen on Newegg. I'd take a Korean screen before a Chinese one. While I consider NEC to be a good brand, I doubt it's panel is any better of a TN than anyone else's, to warrant spending that much more money.

[eric93se]

I think the SAMSUNG ToC T240HD Rose-Black 24" 5ms fits the bill exactly, price, resolution, inputs, quality.

[Airmantharp]

I think the SAMSUNG ToC T240HD Rose-Black 24" 5ms fits the bill exactly, price, resolution, inputs, quality.

That's actually a pretty nice unit- not much more to pay for a TV tuner, and it has component and HDMI if you ever need those for other things, StuG.

[UberGerbil]

That's actually a pretty nice unit- not much more to pay for a TV tuner, and it has component and HDMI if you ever need those for other things, StuG.

And there's a cheaper version without the tuner (or component input or the second HDMI input).
[H] seems to have a bunch of threads about it but I didn't spend any time reading them, just FYI.

[insulin_junkie72]

Gone are the days when OEMs simply slapped a label on a preexisting product and call it 'theirs'.

It still happens. Those Insignia plasmas Best Buy sells are Samsung 4xx series with a different bezel; they'll even identify themselves as such if you get into the service menu.

That's actually a pretty nice unit- not much more to pay for a TV tuner, and it has component and HDMI if you ever need those for other things, StuG.

I've also found having a remote for your monitor becomes strangely addictive

Appearance-wise, they're a mini-version of the Samsung TVs down to the little red stripe on the bottom, so if one likes the look of those...

[Flying Fox]

I think the SAMSUNG ToC T240HD Rose-Black 24" 5ms fits the bill exactly, price, resolution, inputs, quality.

Which is what the OP linked to in his first post, if you care to read that.

Hating Dell/HP/Gateway is akin to fanboyism IMO. Not here to judget, just saying. I go where I can get the best deal for the components and price I'm willing to afford.

[Airmantharp]

Hating Dell/HP/Gateway is akin to fanboyism IMO. Not here to judget, just saying. I go where I can get the best deal for the components and price I'm willing to afford.

That's what I thought about saying but, some people just enjoy being irrational .

[StuG]

I guess its that I don't have a huge thing against OEM's, I advice their monitors to other people actually, but TBH when I'm buying something thats really expensive I want EXACTLY what I want. That happens to fall into the category of not being an OEM manufacturer. Just a personal preference.

Also I'm worried about that Samsung Monitor. I was doing some research and I guess it doesn't work with 4850, 4870, or 4890's. I've not seen anybody say anything about the HD5800's so I'm pretty sketch to buy one if its not going to work with my card 0.o

[Flying Fox]

Also I'm worried about that Samsung Monitor. I was doing some research and I guess it doesn't work with 4850, 4870, or 4890's. I've not seen anybody say anything about the HD5800's so I'm pretty sketch to buy one if its not going to work with my card 0.o

Doesn't work in what way? It has all the required inputs and then some. What were you reading?

[insulin_junkie72]

Doesn't work in what way? It has all the required inputs and then some. What were you reading?

Hmm... reading, it looks like something in the ATI 48xx series drivers is borked where sometimes the DVI port can't be used on the Samsung (have to use HDMI or VGA).

(I'm assuming drivers, since it affects ATI and not Nvidia or Intel, it seems)

[Liquidus]

This is what you need. One of the last non-IPS/PVA 1920x1200 monitors. It's 25.5" though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236047

[Flying Fox]

This is what you need. One of the last non-IPS/PVA 1920x1200 monitors. It's 25.5" though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236047

I have to say it, but isn't Asus as OEM as you can get?